KOF XIII: Billy Kane

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KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Toxic Avanger » Thu Jul 07, 2011 00:31

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Who didn't saw it coming :P

His command list seems to be the same as 95', but with the easier inputs introduced in the later games:
Moves modeled after KoF-i. Will be updated when I can get assed to type the kanjis or transcribe them and or when the actual console movelist is revealed.

fwd .A Dai kaiten keri ( 大回転蹴り ) (Real Bout fwd A)
fwd .B Boutakatobi keri (the usual fwd B)( 棒高跳び蹴り )
bk .A Sao uchi (it's like his 95' dodge -> attack, but with no dodge). ( 竿打ち )
Tap A Senpuu kon (his tap A from 95') ( 旋風棍 )
HCF +A or C Sansetu kon chuudan uchi (long range tri-cane) ( 三節棍中段打ち )
---> During HCF, qcf +A or CKaen Sansetu kon chuudan uchi (the follow up) ( 火炎三節棍中段打ち )
QCB A or C Suzume Otoshi (good old sparrow drop) ( 雀落とし )
DP B or D Kyousyuu hisyou kon (his jumping kick thing, it works like 97') ( 強襲飛翔棍 )

DM

QCFHCB A or C Chou kaen senpuu kon (FF2 DM) ( 超火炎旋風棍 )

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QCF x2 .A + .C Dai guren rasen kon ( 大紅蓮螺旋棍 )

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3. Timing for hcf+C after dp+B has to be done as soon as you land.

4. Don't try to mash cA as it will turn out to be rapid A move instead. Just time it as you land.

5. You have to buffer his DM as soon as he lands. If feels like a cancel but its not.

6. Best way to do this is let the stick go to neutral, then do cB, neutral, then hcf+AC. If you don't, you can get unwanted moves like NM, SDM etc.

7. Early cancel from hcf+C. You cant buffer hcf+C~hcb+AC for the SDM to come out, you have to do a separate motion for the DM itself. So, you would do hcf+C~qcfhcb+AC. If you don't do that, you will get qcb+C instead.

8. Timing of the f+B has to be right.

9. For the beginning part, best to do cB, cB, cB~BC~C. Since the opponent recovers from cB fairly quickly, you have to input the BC~C quickly for it to connect. You can do this trial with all the sC to connect, so if you are struggling to get the b+A after first hit of sC, then let all the sC hit. Spacing can get iffy aswell if you not as close to Takuma when doing qcb+C. Another thing to note is that its best to let the stick go to neutral state after hcf+C~qcf+C because if you don't, when trying to do qcb+C, the DM will come out instead.

10. Just with what you learnt above, let the stick go to neutral state after hcf+C and do a separate motion for the DM and neutral state after hcf+C~qcf+C when doing qcb+C.
Basic Combos
.C (2-3 hits) Fwd .A

.C (2-3 hits) fwb .B

(corner) .C (3 hits) hcb .C hcb .A

.C (3 hits) dp B ---> hcf .C qcf .C

(corner) .C (3 hits) ---> hcb .A --> dp .B --> hcf .C, qcf .C ---> hcf .A + .C

(corner) .C (3 hits) ---> hcb .A --> dp .B --> qcf hcb .A or .C

Billy's cane can miss the opponent. Executing the dp .B as late as possible seems to make it easier.

(corner) .C (3 hits) ---> .B .C ---> C (3 hits) ---> hcb .A ---> qcf hcb A ---> qcf x2 .A + .C

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edit : More footage courtesy of Kusogaki. It looks like the CD is not the only thing that comes from WA.







edit : Kuso-han made a short video about combos with Billy. I think there is another combo vid of Billy flying around there, but I can't watch it due to country lock copyrights :lol:





His CD attack is a throwback to his Fatal Fury Wild Ambition Heat Attack, voice samples seem new (they were probably recorded by the time of XII, just like Mai and perhaps Vice and the other characters from the dumped info). Balds are hot (?)
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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Max » Thu Jul 07, 2011 00:50

*Phew*

When I first saw his design, I thought that he wouldn't get updated motions. I'm glad such thing didn't happen.

I guess he won't have his dp .P or his tap .C from '97. Will we ever see those moves again?

Only one DM, huh? Well it could've been worse; he could've ended up like Vice.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by SonicTempest » Thu Jul 07, 2011 07:27

Random crap I got from messing around in practice mode with Billy in KOF-i:
- His close C is a new animation - it's a three-hit attack where he pokes you with the butt of his stick three times. All three hits are cancellable.
- close D is a high kick and is cancellable
- f+A cancels from close C, doesn't cancel into anything, doesn't look like you can cancel into HD mode from it or f+B
- f+B doesn't travel forward after Billy kicks
- down B has a different animation from 2K2 but it can be rapid-fired and is cancellable into dp+K
- dp+K has enough lag after it that you can't do jump C as a followup like you can in 2K2. Following up with QCB+P works though, as does HCF+P (followup whiffs though). Following up with DM/Neomax in the corner also works.
- dp+BD (EX version) has much less lag - you can do a jump C or even another dp+K afterwards in the corner
- HCF+AC does 3 hits. Doesn't seem to have a followup?
- Random note, but I can't seem to cancel to HD mode from any of his pokes. Maybe they forgot to put that in, lol.

Random combo crap:
stand C, f+A
stand C, dp+K, QCB+P
(corner) dBx3, dp+K, QCF,HCB+P

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Dark_Chaotix » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:19

Oh shit Billy first on phone before console?!?!

I cant get over there is a phone version of this game...

Anyways, He looks good and hope he has more potential in the console version.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Max » Sat Jul 09, 2011 15:01

Random, unimportant fact:

He now spins his cane in the other direction.

I seriously doubt it, but I wonder if this will have any repercussion in the case someone rolls behind him as he spins. (Back in 2k3, the opponent used to get trapped behind Billy for around 20 hits)

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Yuki Yagami » Thu Aug 04, 2011 05:16

Billy videos posted by SNKP

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by The Monster » Sun Aug 14, 2011 07:24

Billy looks to be the "Killik" of this game , oh snap.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Dark_Chaotix » Sun Aug 14, 2011 08:24

Billy has been out way before "Killik".... ^^

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by The Monster » Sun Aug 14, 2011 09:50

Dark_Chaotix wrote:Billy has been out way before "Killik".... ^^
Yeah I knows....I just wanted to contribute a bit more to some threads , place seems a little dead in some spots. XD My bad.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by SonicTempest » Thu Nov 24, 2011 03:25

Just unlocked him. Here are some quick notes.

- Billy's f+A is sort of like KOF2002UM in that you only get one hit at point blank. To get the full two hits and unlock its full usefulness as a pressure move you need to be a little further away. Fortunately, his stand C is three hits now and doing f+A after letting all three hits of the stand C connect will result in both hits of the f+A coming out. dB, f+A and stand A, f+A both work as well.
- As far as pokes go his d.A is kind of nerfed. The max range is about one full character width.
- His d.B is pretty great though, and you can rapid fire it. His stand B is a new animation (which also hits low!) and it's cancellable, so you can do dB dB stand B as a combo starter. dB dB sB dp+B, HCF+C, QCF+C does about 235 damage - alrightfor a combo that takes no stock.
- Billy's down C doesn't have as much forward coverage as it used to - the hitbox is pretty narrow. However its vulnerable box also seems to be reasonably low so you can probably use it to anti-air to some extent. I think it'll whiff too often for your liking though.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by kadosho » Thu Nov 24, 2011 05:00

After getting a few rounds with Billy, I find him pretty well rounded. Even his DM's are balanced like his old FF self.
Plus his EX attacks "Fire Spin" can Drive Cancel into his specials, cancel again and keep the combo going.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by AtTheGates » Fri Nov 25, 2011 19:38

http://wiki.hardedge.org/index.php/Bill ... %29#Combos" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

what we have so far for billy. seems like almost all of his damage comes from corner combos.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Max » Sat Dec 10, 2011 20:59

Something that should be obvious for all William players:

(But for those who are new, here it is)


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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by Dark_Chaotix » Wed Dec 21, 2011 02:07

Added movelist vid and trial mode vid to first post.

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Re: KOF XIII: Billy Kane

Post by kadosho » Sat Dec 24, 2011 01:38

Oh and one more thing.. his dialog with Saiki is a surprise.
"Wow... another one of those weird monster types!" - Billy
"Hey, I wonder what happens if I catch em' all! Maybe they'll call me a an Elite Trainer or something!"

"Do you realize who you're talking to? I swear, the stupidity of you humans knows no boundaries" - Saiki
"It is your destiny to be purged. Not only from your planet, but from the very fabric of history"


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