KOF XIII: Ash

Website · Post by **Dark_Chaotix** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 23:33

Toxic Avanger wrote: I don't know who the player is, but has some pretty cool footage at the beginning, plus he uses several KoF XI tricks, har har.

I didnt really see them, what were they? I must be blind

Toxic Avanger · Post by **Toxic Avanger** » Mon May 09, 2011 18:14

Toxic Avanger · Post by **Toxic Avanger** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 22:04

Ash Crimson : Practical Combo Movie.

If you have followed Acho and other events, you'll notice that most of these are taken from actual players and actual matches.

Website · Post by **Dark_Chaotix** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 02:49

Is the shortcut to do his A~B~C~D like Xi? Cos there wasnt a shortcut in XII but seems like there is one now.

What are the differences between HD mode and his DM? Are there certain strings you can do in one but not the other?

Post by **SonicTempest** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 03:04

HD mode doesn't remove his charge times whereas his DM does.

Website · Post by **Dark_Chaotix** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 03:38

I see, thanks for that

Toxic Avanger · Post by **Toxic Avanger** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 05:13

Dark_Chaotix wrote:I see, thanks for that

The jwiki's point out a short cut to get his dashing sans culottes, but the method is kinda be~muffling my eyes but; seems to be the same xD

(※ﾜﾝﾎﾟｲﾝﾄ：サン･キュロットはダッシュしてから出す。コマンドは弱ヴァントーズを打って硬直後にCが出ないようにABCまで入力しておき硬直がとけたのを見計らってダッシュしてDをおすと良い。)

In addition to what Tempest said :

Hyper drive mode allows for Ash:
Command move -> Special move cancels
Special moves <-> Special moves cancels

His Sans culottes only allows:
Special Moves <-> Command moves cancels (both ways though).

edit

Ex caprice stills adds bar xD

Website · Post by **Dark_Chaotix** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 01:20

Added console changes and movelist vid

ZeroSoulreaver · Post by **ZeroSoulreaver** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 15:57

I have been using Ash a whole lot the past few months. To cancel into his Sans Culotte I just use the slide method with my inputs and it works perfectly but you have to be sure to put a little pressure on the first input or it won't register. I do the same thing for Shen as well.

I found a way to hit Griminal after using a Sans Culotte combo and Thermidor. It's a bit tricky though because the timing is pretty quick during the pop up.

Ash is easy to play for me because I already practiced Leona a ton, some of his cancels are pretty much identical. Such as his Nivose into Bon Voyage cancel it's the same as Leona's Moon Slasher into her charging slash.

Also Ash has a hitbox low enough on his cr

that he can slide under some fireballs. I'm not exactly sure which ones but I tried it against King and it worked.
He also has a lot of ambigious things that combo that you wouldn't expect like cr

, st

,

or cr.

into Nivose.

*edit*
Having an issue with Trial 7 how do you move forward right before the

(hard) version of Ventose? I keep trying and failing, maybe I'm doing it too slow?

Bugle/Hawk'M · Post by **Bugle/Hawk'M** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 19:49

ZeroSoulreaver wrote:Having an issue with Trial 7 how do you move forward right before the (hard) version of Ventose? I keep trying and failing, maybe I'm doing it too slow?

You just have to charge back then hold forward a little bit before pressing C. That's easy, but the tricky part is timing the previous hits soon enough that they are at the right height.

ZeroSoulreaver · Post by **ZeroSoulreaver** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 21:04

Bugle/Hawk'M wrote:You just have to charge back then hold forward a little bit before pressing C. That's easy, but the tricky part is timing the previous hits soon enough that they are at the right height.

Ah, as soon as you explained it like that I got it. I was doing it all along my timing was just off

Thanks a lot.

Post by **Gunsmith** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 22:54

added Bala's Ash combo

Toxic Avanger · Post by **Toxic Avanger** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 15:04

The first video deals with "staples", simply basic combos and they focus on Ash 3 main "modes", vanilla combos, after a sans culottes and HD combos. The first video is already "good" in content and combos are placed by execution difficulty.

The second video is about more advanced combos, and has some seriously good stuff.

Simply great combos.... And youtube new layout changes are simply repulsive and impractical

edit :

Some more combos by nohohonto :

The concept for the video creations is "low meter usage" and "practical", some are really cool and they usually use only 2 bars or less.

Ash_Crimson · Post by **Ash_Crimson** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:48

Any comments on Ash's viability in KOF 13? I find him to be excellent at harassing the enemy (trolling basically!) but I also like his corner combo potential.

Anyway, here's an extremely helpful video that I found, should help inspire more combos with Ash!

Toxic Avanger · Post by **Toxic Avanger** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 20:29

The latest neta vid from nohohonto. I realized aeons ago, but Ranma and KoF actually do mesh quite well

:: orochinagi

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