:: orochinagi

remember this thread? http://kingoffighters.planets.gamespy.c ... =29&t=2227" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

to make it short, kof 2k2 um training mode is just like 98um training mode - we can find out startup frames & to some extent active frames by programming attack, pause, max mode activation.


since i am really tied up with sf4 right now, i can't promise that i'll do all framedata. i'll probably start out with my favourite characters first, for obvious reasons.


cheers,
ATG

oh, and may lee LP = 7f

some bad news: since you cannot cancel air normals or special moves into max mode, i can't think of a way to figure out their startup. is there any other way to cancel in 2k2 that i'm not aware of?


anyway, here we go.


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MAI LEE

Mai Lee changes i noticed:

1. her ,QCB+K super in normal mode wallbounces now
2. her backdash in hero mode goes way further
3. changed super motion for max mode super in normal mode (now ,qcf+K)


Normal Mode

LP: 7f
(c)LK: 7f
(f)LK: 11f
(c)HP: 10f
(f)HP: 14f
(c)HK: 8f
(f)HK: 12f
CD: 21f

2LP: 7f
2LK: 8f
2HP: 9f
2HK: 12f


Hero Mode

LP: 7f
LK: 6f
HP: 12f
HK: 10f
CD: 37f

2LP: 7f
2LK: 7f
3LK: 17f
2HP: 10f
2HK: 13f


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HEIDERN

changes (from 98um / 98, since i never played 2k or 2k1):
- most of the stuff below sucks, but keep one thing in mind: no charge time in max mode. heidern has insane combos.
- far D is terribly slow again, like in 98
- close C first hit cannot be canceled anymore
- close C 2nd hit combos into ,QCF+P in the corner
- projectiles give knockdown
- CD gives ground slide
- f+B can be performed with b+B as well (6B and 4B)
- different jump-back animation
- slightly different backdash
- charge d, u+LP has super cancel, only combos into , +P super in the corner though

LP: 7f
(c)LK: 9f
(f)LK: 9f
6LK: 22f
(c)HP: 9f
(f)HP: 13f
(c)HK: 9f
(f)HK: 29f (what a joke)
CD: 25f

2LP: 7f
2LK: 6f
2HP: 10f
2HK: 10f


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LIN

(c)LP: 6f
(f)LP: 6f
6LP: 20f
(c)LK: 7f
(f)LK: 9f
(c)HP: 11f
(f)HP: 18f
(c)HK: 12f
(f)HK: 13f
CD: 17f

2LP: 5f
2LK: 5f
2HP: 7f
3HP: 18f
2HK: 15f


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YAMAZAKI

-has his old c.lp from kof98 back (yay!)
- new special with armor break, +P


(c)LP: 7f
(f)LP: 10f
6LP: 20f
(c)LK: 8f
(f)LK: 9f
(c)HP: 6f
(f)HP: 17f
(c)HK: 9f
(f)HK: 13f
CD: 16f

2LP: 9f
2LK: 9f
2HP: 10f
2HK: 12f

Don't know how you work out the frames but thanks for doing this will keep a watch for this thread for more updates