What do you think of the death penalty?

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Post by Gunsmith » Sat Dec 03, 2005 19:28

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Gunsmith wrote:I believe in killing people who do not fit into society.
You meant people like Jeffrey Dahmer or your usual geek/nerd stuck in their bedroom cuz they can't socialize even with a gun pointed at their heads?
kill old people and the disabled.

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Post by Eczema » Sun Dec 04, 2005 02:45

Apathy Wind wrote:
Eczema wrote:i never said that. of course i feel more sorry for rape victims, as they are usually female, --> and probably attractive <--. the issue here is drug trafficking.
......

Care to explain?
who would rape an ugly chick?

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Post by SonicTempest » Sun Dec 04, 2005 02:57

Eczema wrote:
Apathy Wind wrote:
Eczema wrote:i never said that. of course i feel more sorry for rape victims, as they are usually female, --> and probably attractive <--. the issue here is drug trafficking.
......

Care to explain?
who would rape an ugly chick?
This is a situation I like to refer to as
"Open mouth, insert foot"

If you think "ugly" women are safe from rape you're sorely mistaken.

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Post by Kyosuke Kagami » Sun Dec 04, 2005 03:08

ShadowSonic wrote:If you think "ugly" women are safe from rape you're sorely mistaken.
Hormones and penis have no eyes.

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Post by Eczema » Sun Dec 04, 2005 03:27

ShadowSonic wrote:
Eczema wrote:
Apathy Wind wrote: ......

Care to explain?
who would rape an ugly chick?
This is a situation I like to refer to as
"Open mouth, insert foot"

If you think "ugly" women are safe from rape you're sorely mistaken.
I never said they were safe. Notice I said "probably attractive."

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Post by Empyrian » Sun Dec 04, 2005 04:45

I would like Style to at least make his stand properly instead of just senselessly flaming Eczema.

Sure, the end users of drugs are knowingly participating in suicide. Their fates are grim if they continued taking drugs.

That does not absolve the pushers, the drug lords and their misc henchmen. They are assisting in suicide. The end users paid for their mistakes with their lifes and so should the traffickers.

One can argue that we should go after the bosses instead of the henchmen of course.

If you tell me that there should be no death sentences in your opinion then imo, I can tell you that your world is too idealistic.

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Post by 0style » Sun Dec 04, 2005 04:55

Eczema wrote:
who would rape an ugly chick?
Do you find babies attractive? they get raped.

i've already made my stand on the death penalty in the 2nd or 3rd post.

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Post by Empyrian » Sun Dec 04, 2005 05:43

StyLe wrote:It's barbaric but people NEED TO DIE! Should only apply to people who are truly guilty, 100% sure they did the crime and only to crimes like rape and anything that ruins another person's life for a lifetime.
Ok. fair enough

Next post.
you're free to believe what you want, this is just for you to know your flaws of your beliefs. IMO drug dealing should not be punishable by death anywhere and the death of Nguyen Tuong Van is wrong, but that's what he gets for not planning ahead. :)
Conflict. He committed the crime, he admitted it and the crime if succesful will ruin hundreds of life BUT NO... in your opinion, he should be spared.

Such a clear stand.

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Post by 0style » Sun Dec 04, 2005 05:50

what a retard, sure go pick away at my specific usage or words, im sure others were able to comprehend what i really meant. as stated before it's the drug user's decision at first, unless drugs were violently forced onto them, he's SOL for taking them in the first place. Dealer's wouldn't have customers if there wasn't a need from idiot druggies.

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Post by Empyrian » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:07

Right. Use offensive words on me... Heh.
Dealer's wouldn't have customers if there wasn't a need from idiot druggies.
The logic seems correct. Although this one is more reasonable.

If there are no drugs, there will be no addicts. You mean to tell me that drug addicts appeared before the advent of drugs?

Most probably, some unscrupulous person in the past discovered the addicting effects of some drugs and decided to make a quick buck out of it with no regard of human life. Such a person should not be killed in your opinion?

What about synethetic drugs?

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Post by Eczema » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:07

I should make myself clear.

1. Yes, drug takers are idiots.

2. Yes, rape is wrong.

3. IMO, a single drug trafficker can usually hurt more people than a single rapist. There are also gang-related offences and other crimes committed in regards to the exchange of drugs. Whether the victims are idiots or deserve to be hurt is irrelevant. That's like saying women ask to be raped by dressing and acting slutty.

4. I personally don't think babies are attractive, but some people obviously do, and that's their personal opinion.
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Post by Sheba » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:35

Empyrian wrote:
If you tell me that there should be no death sentences in your opinion then imo, I can tell you that your world is too idealistic.

lol, go tell that to the likes of Christian Ranucci, oh wait they may be dead!

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Post by Apathy Wind » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:38

Oh good lord........


Rape is an act of hostility and aggression; not an expression of sexual desire. Rapists are not raping woman (or men or whatever) because they're so unbelievably attracted to them - their doing it for the sense of power or control over the victim (and in some truly fucked up cases the thrill of debasing and torturing them). The sexual aspect of the crime is merely the weapon the perpetrator uses - not the desired result. Rape is an act of violence.

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Post by Sheba » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:49

Apathy Wind wrote:Oh good lord........


Rape is an act of hostility and aggression; not an expression of sexual desire. Rapists are not raping woman (or men or whatever) because they're so unbelievably attracted to them - their doing it for the sense of power or control over the victim (and in some truly fucked up cases the thrill of debasing and torturing them). The sexual aspect of the crime is merely the weapon the perpetrator uses - not the desired result. Rape is an act of violence.
Blame 4chan for wrongly teach people that rape is synonym for surprise sex.

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Post by Kyosuke Kagami » Sun Dec 04, 2005 06:54

Sheba wrote:Blame 4chan for wrongly teach people that rape is synonym for surprise sex.
Suddenly I remembered something about a group of jap. pervs that like to tape the times when they try to torn apart schoolgirls' outfits, and then raping them.

It's funny when you see them pursuing the girls... the rest is simply a very wrong thing.

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