AFK

[r3v3n4nT]

they cant, i am an asian therefore i get good asian resistence.

[Gaseous Snake]

You won't have a good time in a foreign country if you look down on everything the locals do. All you'll end up doing is becoming Foreign Scum. You know the type: go to another country to "experience a different culture" but just end up constantly bitching about the food, customs, locals and then only end up hanging out with other foreigners and setting up their own little communities, including eating/drinking districts and living districts. If you're that type, then do everyone a favour and stay the fuck HOME.

[r3v3n4nT]

u talking to me?

eh, im sumone who fucked off from my own country (it wasnt my idea though) and ended up bitching about my own country after experiencing what it's like elsewhere (though SA isnt all that better than China anyways). So hrm... yeah.

[Eczema]

u talking to me?

1. I can't help it if my parents drag me to some shithole of a country.
2. You don't have to visit a country to hate the people. I have experienced Chinese culture in Australia, and I must say, it bites ass.

IMO

[-4n'Dant3-]

u talking to me?

1. I can't help it if my parents drag me to some shithole of a country.
2. You don't have to visit a country to hate the people. I have experienced Chinese culture in Australia, and I must say, it bites ass.

IMO

actually, to be honest only the mainlanders are like that. the other chinese (like malaysian, hk) arent too bad, but i especially hate going to stores and hearing chinese people talk uber loud about how cheap/expensive something is, and then proceed to haggle the price down.

[Gaseous Snake]

My post was directed at Foreign Scum. It's up to you to evaluate whether you belong in that category or not. I got sick of Foreign Scum whilst living and travelling in places like China and Thailand, and my stay here in HK has elevated my hatred to new levels.

Basically, Foreign Scum are those who gleefully accept opportunities to go to foreign countries to take their dollars/yen/renminbi/whatever but absorb none of the culture that they find themselves surrounded by. They can typically be identified by their constant whining about the country that they're in and comparisons to their own country (where they were just plain Scum). So many find 'foreign culture' so abhorrent that they would rather create areas for themselves (both living and lifestyle) in order to forget where they really are. You know these areas, their names are famous to all western tourists: Roppongi, Sanlitun, Lan Kwai Fong, Khao San Rd... These districts' distinguishing feature is that they're indistinguishable. Wow, a fucking row of bars! Never seen that before! Could've spent those hours wandering around the backstreets of Beijing or Kowloon just to see how real people really live. But, no! Air tickets are expensive! While I'm here, I just GOTTA see the district built by westerners for westerners!

It's not just the big cities that suffer from this phenomenom either. Anyone who blindly says that travelling broadens peoples' horizons is full of horseshit. I fail to see what the traveller who goes around the world from one backpacker town to another, eating western food and watching western movies, can possibly be said to be expanding his horizons. Backpacker towns are easy enough to spot: just look out for banana pancakes, Bob Marley/Che Guevara t-shirts and shady people offering to sell you weed.

At first, when I saw these types in China I forgave them. Foreigners are still pretty new to China. They're just afraid. Give them time, they'll adapt soon enough, right?

WRONG. It's only in the past few months living here in Hong Kong that my eyes have been opened to how it is and how it's going to pan out in China. This place has had foreigners for so fucking long now that if integration were the natural process, then it surely would have happened by now. Instead what we have is an expertly organized ex-pat colony that simply chooses to live as a separate population from the main. They go to different schools, they live in different areas and have set up so many English-speaking services that they just live in a complete bubble. I've a friend who grew up here, spent his whole education here but can barely speak a word of Cantonese. How is that even possible? Easy, just stay within the bubble.

I'm pretty sure that most people around the world wouldn't describe the places they live in as 'shitholes'. I'd say most people are pretty damn proud of where they come from. Most are happy with their lives. Just keep an open mind, dig a little deeper and try to understand someone else that's very different from you, that's all I'm asking.

[Wolfie]

O_o;

i hope u r not trying to scare me off.

[Archedgar]

This thread owns.


Anyway, if you're going to go to another country you've never visited... keep an open mind, it sounds like common sense, but AGAIN, most people don't use it much, so I'm just saying.... don't be a female dog.

A lot of people are going to say "This sucks", no matter how hard you try, if you ask enough people about something, even if its the GREATEST thing in the world, you're going to get 'It sucks' comments eventually.



I myself have plans of visiting some part of China next year, I don't speak a word of Chinese of any type, and I have little/no knowledge of anything Chinese(... * this is where people chime in and say, what about chinese food?*).

[Empyrian]

Foreign scum aka westerners try to change our way of life! We must EXTERMINATE THEM!

Go Go Jihad warriors!

[Eczema]

Foreign scum aka westerners try to change our way of life! We must EXTERMINATE THEM!

Go Go Jihad warriors!

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I don't hate "terrorists." If they leave me alone, they can do whatever they want.

[Empyrian]

Let's see.
For this Local v.s. Foreigners topic here, we must put things in perspective.

People find it hard to integrate into new things. Be it country, customs, culture, language, people, new home/friends/games, etc.

Why are there Chinatowns wherever there are Chinese? (Even in western countries.)

This is because people want to be in familiar surroundings.

[Eczema]

Let's see.
For this Local v.s. Foreigners topic here, we must put things in perspective.

People find it hard to integrate into new things. Be it country, customs, culture, language, people, new home/friends/games, etc.

Why are there Chinatowns wherever there are Chinese? (Even in western countries.)

This is because people want to be in familiar surroundings.

That's a fantastic example Emp. In my city, there are many suburbs that are predomianntly asian, with shopping centres full of asians, speaking asian, doing asian things. There's also a Chinatown. I don't mind them, tho, since they don't bother me. Are these people foreign scum, GS, or is it only bad when Westerners do it? I'd like to see how well Asia's economy goes without tourists and imports.

[Empyrian]

Then do you term them as foreign scum?

Do you call people who flocked to your country to work, live, travel foreign scum?

Can you term these people that contribute to the economy as foreign scum?

Must you term the people who banded together due to cultural/genetic similarity as foreign scum?

Why the strong reaction? It is mainly because when the first Chinese came to Singapore which was situated in a Malay dominated region for a better life, we were also regarded as foreign scum too.

What do you expect the Chinese to do but band together when the local populace was generally hostile to them?

[Eczema]

Then do you term them as foreign scum?

Do you call people who flocked to your country to work, live, travel foreign scum?

Can you term these people that contribute to the economy as foreign scum?

Must you term the people who banded together due to cultural/genetic similarity as foreign scum?

Why the strong reaction? It is mainly because when the first Chinese came to Singapore which was situated in a Malay dominated region for a better life, we were also regarded as foreign scum too.

What do you expect the Chinese to do but band together when the local populace was generally hostile to them?

Are you talking to me? I don't deem them foreign scum. I said I don't have a problem with them. Just contrasting GS' definition of foreign scum to his own kind. And strong reaction? I only wrote one paragraph compared to GS' wall of text.

[AcidicEnema]

I got confused, then I remembered that GS doesn't stand for Guo Sheng.