this quote is solid goldKane317 wrote:style points do more psychology damage to opponent and boosts user's morale =)
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Lol, damn right, that's why you HAVE to taunt once per round--mandatory quota to fulfill to 'properly' defeat your opponent =)Tiamat wrote:this quote is solid goldKane317 wrote:style points do more psychology damage to opponent and boosts user's morale =)
Anyone has tips on some solid pressuring gameplay points?
For pressuring I just use: d.B, d.A, +A, +A, +B (and I don't think it's 100% safe).
Hop with E, C, and sometimes D (against Whip), sometimes I'll use hop A, but never really use hop B. Is it really useful?
d+D is good for zoning, and cancel it into +A, +A.
Course I'm always going for ACE combos but the opportunity rarely presents itself.
Lol, I need some tips, I can do most/all his combos in practice mode, just need to know when to utilize them.
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No, that was just to record. I have done it on my friend and my friend has done it on me, we were not able to escape it with rolls or save shifts at all. The only time we escaped was when either of us missed the unblockable.
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Okay, I've been working on it. And here is what I did.
I recorded the commands on training mode, then I tested it against myself, yeah I couldn't block it, so that means I didn't miss the thing. Alright now what I tried was
Mash on the roll button: I was able to roll escape it on occasions, but that kinda sucks because as I roll I can get 2Ked into a combo.
Do an LDM: Some LDMs were able to break through it.
So thankfully this thing seems to be breakable thus far, hopefully . It is still a pretty darn nice trap. And I don't think my execution doing it was the cause of me being able to escape it by myself .
And if it was my execution doing the thing the cause of me escaping it, then I have no idea.
EDIT: GRAGH! I noticed I can't roll escape on the first repetion, but only on the second, same with LDMs... And when I looked closely at my record, I notice I do the second one a bit slower than the first one.. SO DAMN, I bet I was only able to escape it cuz I missed the timing. So after all this thing could have tight timing.
EDIT 2: I'll like to label this as escapable for now, but just as a darn nice reset unblockable trap.
I recorded the commands on training mode, then I tested it against myself, yeah I couldn't block it, so that means I didn't miss the thing. Alright now what I tried was
Mash on the roll button: I was able to roll escape it on occasions, but that kinda sucks because as I roll I can get 2Ked into a combo.
Do an LDM: Some LDMs were able to break through it.
So thankfully this thing seems to be breakable thus far, hopefully . It is still a pretty darn nice trap. And I don't think my execution doing it was the cause of me being able to escape it by myself .
And if it was my execution doing the thing the cause of me escaping it, then I have no idea.
EDIT: GRAGH! I noticed I can't roll escape on the first repetion, but only on the second, same with LDMs... And when I looked closely at my record, I notice I do the second one a bit slower than the first one.. SO DAMN, I bet I was only able to escape it cuz I missed the timing. So after all this thing could have tight timing.
EDIT 2: I'll like to label this as escapable for now, but just as a darn nice reset unblockable trap.
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shura wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCrrtejFMA0
broken?
please check if it works on atomiswave too
anything that works on "arcade mode" on PS2, works on AW
kinda old combo
(i just prefer cancelling to LDM after the st. A) but infinite anyway, except if u input the "10" too late/too low, opponent may be able to roll
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You probably want to just try holding combinations of forward as well just to ensure it isn't crossing up as you land.
People here rarely bother with ACE anymore. Oswald combos are nothing more than an opportunity to attempt to land as many df+A's in a juggle as possible. 3, 4 or 5 depending on the situation atm.
People here rarely bother with ACE anymore. Oswald combos are nothing more than an opportunity to attempt to land as many df+A's in a juggle as possible. 3, 4 or 5 depending on the situation atm.
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about that so called infinite....i was wandering:
i tried it like 3 times ... and nop, it wasnt an infinite (maybe i was doing some input very slow)
but errr, on that video, does the combo counter was still moving up?????
(it doesnt show up if i recall correctly)
cuz here, opponent couldnt block the 10, but it wasnt counted as part of the combo. (still, on one time, opponent touched floor and he rolled immediately ...)
some more feedback on diferent peeps trying it, plz?
i tried it like 3 times ... and nop, it wasnt an infinite (maybe i was doing some input very slow)
but errr, on that video, does the combo counter was still moving up?????
(it doesnt show up if i recall correctly)
cuz here, opponent couldnt block the 10, but it wasnt counted as part of the combo. (still, on one time, opponent touched floor and he rolled immediately ...)
some more feedback on diferent peeps trying it, plz?
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as the recovery frames of the dfA hitting standalone are UB this is an unblockable infinite
'cause with A you make the oppo land on those frames
but obviously you have to be very precise
this is not combo nor a juggle it use the frames
i've seen in deep how it happens and seems that there are some standing frame of the dummy
now it have to be clarified if during those frames the inf can be rolled or punished with invincible moves
someone succeeded in it but it seems only due to a dfA landed too late
still on study
'cause with A you make the oppo land on those frames
but obviously you have to be very precise
this is not combo nor a juggle it use the frames
i've seen in deep how it happens and seems that there are some standing frame of the dummy
now it have to be clarified if during those frames the inf can be rolled or punished with invincible moves
someone succeeded in it but it seems only due to a dfA landed too late
still on study
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Ok to shift the topic a little, what are some good QS chars for Oswald to do ACE combo (NON-corner one: +A, +P, +B, +E) if I do NOT use:
Gato or Kula.
I was thinking Ryo's f.b.f+P QS into Oswald.
EDIT: Yeah it works.
Yuri's +D QS into Oswald?
EDIT: Yeah it works too.
Griffon's +D, qcfx2+K dm QS into Oswald.
I'll list characters I do use:
Geese,
Shen,
Whip,
Clark,
Ralf,
Malin,
Duck King,
Shingo,
Ramon,
Ryo,
Yuri,
Mary,
Kasumi,
Eiji
hmm...ideas?
Gato or Kula.
I was thinking Ryo's f.b.f+P QS into Oswald.
EDIT: Yeah it works.
Yuri's +D QS into Oswald?
EDIT: Yeah it works too.
Griffon's +D, qcfx2+K dm QS into Oswald.
I'll list characters I do use:
Geese,
Shen,
Whip,
Clark,
Ralf,
Malin,
Duck King,
Shingo,
Ramon,
Ryo,
Yuri,
Mary,
Kasumi,
Eiji
hmm...ideas?
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