Kaede (NGBC)

by **Tel** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 14:55

Ratix0 wrote:^
Whoa. Thats some serious damage scaling.

Not as ridiculous as KOF2003 damage scaling.

Kaede is pretty strong here, if a little boring. You can combo into his hcf+K from light attacks, and he seems to be invincible during the startup pause of his hcb+C. And worse, his hcb+P moves have almost no recovery, so you have to GCFS if you want to retaliate.

As nasty Kaede is over here, Moriya is even worse. crouching B twice, qcf+A twice, dp+A,dp+C. Easy to do and painful as heck.

by **Derrace** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 16:39

Empyrian wrote:A note to all Kaede users.

While down B, down A, qcb A(2hits), SC to qcf*2 A is super duper easy and damaging, please *TRY* to work a bit harder for your damage by doing this instead.

Down B, Down A, qcb A(1 hit), qcf*2 C.

First combo does 40% damage but the second one inflicts around 60%.

Opponent near corner, Hcf kick, qcb C, dp A hits.

whoa!! 60%?

hmm, Down B, Down A, qcb A(1 hit), qcb, hcf A works as well. not sure if it does more damage than qcf*2 C.

only reason why people do the 40% damage combo is to trigger the special DA with morriya.

by **~!T.T!~** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 03:53

Derrick wrote:hmm, Down B, Down A, qcb A(1 hit), qcb, hcf A works as well. not sure if it does more damage than qcf*2 C.

it doesn't....it actually does significantly less damage.

by **Empyrian** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 07:07

Maybe it isn't such a good idea to reveal the difference in damage....

Last thing I want is a whole phalanx of Kaede users...

edit: Qcf*2 Punch aka ice cream cone has good invincibility. You can use it to go through projectiles, uppercuts, etc.

by **Derrace** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:27

~!T.T!~ wrote:
Derrick wrote:hmm, Down B, Down A, qcb A(1 hit), qcb, hcf A works as well. not sure if it does more damage than qcf*2 C.

it doesn't....it actually does significantly less damage.

okie, thanks for that info.

Empyrian wrote:Maybe it isn't such a good idea to reveal the difference in damage....

Last thing I want is a whole phalanx of Kaede users...

edit: Qcf*2 Punch aka ice cream cone has good invincibility. You can use it to go through projectiles, uppercuts, etc.

ice cream cone? it looks more like a giant lightsabre. :grin:

by **christensenray** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:27

Captain Commando's qcf+PP from MvC2...

Which is a lightsabre... :grin:

by **Tel** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 13:14

It's kinda sad that none of Kaede's SDMs made it into NGBC. OK, qcb,hcf+B SDM is CRAP and I wouldn't bother seeing it in here, but qcf,qcf+B is pretty nasty... and cool looking. Kinda evil that his lightsaber DM now uses 2 stocks.

by **vtu22_2** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 07:20

Kaede's QCB, HCF + C super has some invinsibility frames at the start. The computer has used this move a few times on me already and it seems to work quite well. Damage isn't fantastic, but in terms of effectiiveness and strategy, it's got potential.

by **Tel** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 13:35

Both A and C versions are invincible from startup until Kaede touches the tip of his sword to the grouhd.

by **christensenray** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:53

realised this myself the hard way today. ouch. against the CPU. How embarrassing :oops:

by **Tel** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 14:37

christensenray wrote:realised this myself the hard way today. ouch. against the CPU. How embarrassing

Hey, it could've been worse. It could've been a human opponent!

by **christensenray** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:53

i think its more embarrassing when people see you lose to the CPU opponent than to a human. Plus it was first round too. And it killed my character... :oops:

by **Geese** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 02:54

christensenray wrote:i think its more embarrassing when people see you lose to the CPU opponent than to a human. Plus it was first round too. And it killed my character...

Even though yours maybe quite embarassing, the most embarassing is to lose to one of those players who mash the buttons and keep turning the joystick in a clockwise motion hoping that by sheer ingenious on their part a technique might be executed :razz:

by **Tel** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 03:21

Tell me about it. A long time ago I lost to some kid while playing Marvel Super Heroes who was just mashing the buttons. His luck was absolutely incredible for someone who didn't know how to play the game. He actually had 4 perfect wins against the CPU! Not that MSH's AI was particularly good or anything, but you get my point....

by **christensenray** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:05

Geese
Even though yours maybe quite embarassing, the most embarassing is to lose to one of those players who mash the buttons and keep turning the joystick in a clockwise motion hoping that by sheer ingenious on their part a technique might be executed

Hasnt happened to me yet thankfully.

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